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PostPosted: August 14th, 2015, 5:17 am 
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I am proposing a new set of legislation to deal with kings with little/no activity for varied periods of time. Considering this deals mostly with the powers afforded to kings, i feel as though a duke bill may help to show how the dukes feel on the subject, it shouldn't count towards the passing of this legislation. I will open a separate topic in Imperial Court for open discussion on this, please leave this one alone for clear voting from the Council.

Status of Kings:
1) Active Kings - A king who is active on the server and participates in discussions is considered an active king and retains their vote on the council

2) Inactive Kings - A king who is inactive can pass their vote to a duke who is a vassal of that same king. If the realm only has one duke, it automatically passes to that duke, if there are multiple the king must designate which one it passes to if the kingdom has no dukes, it is not counted in determining how many king votes are needed for things to pass the approval of the council. Counts and serfs cannot be proxy voters for a king
2a) Voluntary Inactivity - A king may become voluntarily inactive by stating so on the forums. A king may become active again at any time by simply stating so as well.
2b) Involuntary Inactivity - A king may become involuntarily inactive by not posting anything/ignoring discussions that require king input in imperial court/council of the crowned/applications/parliament a king may resume activity immediately upon stating they are active again and participating in the discussions again

3) Abdicated King - A king who elects to leave the server either permanently or semi-permanently may choose to abdicate.
A abdicated kingdom passes to control of the duke who would normally assume control, but as a Warden (powers of warden detailed in section
3a), though it does not have a vote on the council of the crowned anymore, for all intents and purposes it is a duchy. If the kingdom has no duke the council may declare the kingdom;
3a) Under a new liege - The council may place an independent duke, or a duke who wishes to become independent as the Warden of a Abdicated Kingdom. A duke who wishes to become a Warden must surrender all claims to previous land either under the council or under a liege-lord. A Warden may have serfs/counts under them in their new Ward, and may place them in any land within excepting the lands previously developed, which may only be alters if the abdicated king clearly states that it is permissible for the Warden to do so. Otherwise all previous constructions/settlements/counties/duchies are to be considered Historical Sites and to be left alone.
3b) Under the Council - If no duke is willing to step in as warden, a abdicated kingdom will be under the direct control of the council. All serfs/counts in the kingdom shall be managed as vassals of the council, but they may not claim new areas of the kingdom that have not been previously and clearly designated to be theirs, until a Warden is
chosen.
3c) Dissolved - This is only to be used if deemed absolutely necessary by the Council. A vote for kingdom dissolution must be made completely unanimously by all Active AND Inactive members of the Council, Proxy Dukes may not vote for dissolution and involuntary inactive kings are still counted towards the number of members of the Council for this. A dissolved kingdom is broken apart, all Duchies/Counties that were under the control of dukes/counts in that nation become independent holdings under the council with all the rights that entails. If the council decides so, serfs may have a county set aside for them to work until the council deems them ready for advancement to Count under normal voting procedures for rank ascension. Duchies/Counties whose technical Liege-Lord was the previous monarch shall be set aside as Historical Site,
and my not be altered, and shall be referred to as "County/Duchy X of the Former Kingdom of Y" The kingdom itself shall be used as a term for a geographic area instead of a political boundary from then on

A abdicated king may resume kingdom status upon a unanimous vote from the Council of the Crowned, When they return they are given the title of Honorary King. They retain all the rights to their lands, vassals, etc. but do not have a vote on the council until the council has decided that they are truly dedicated to the server upon return. They can do this by participating in community projects, developing their own lands, and taking part in the forums and legal discussions.

Furthermore, I propose that once a king has given his vote on something, he may not remove it unless the vote is somehow found to be unlawful, or if the vote was given by a proxy voter and upon their return does not agree, or if the thing they are voting on changes.

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Last edited by King Erastil on August 16th, 2015, 3:22 am, edited 2 times in total.

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PostPosted: August 14th, 2015, 2:49 pm 
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I vote in favour of this.

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PostPosted: August 14th, 2015, 6:09 pm 
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I also vote in favour.

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PostPosted: August 14th, 2015, 6:26 pm 
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Good job sir, this is well written. One point of clarification:

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3b) Under the Council - If no duke is willing to step in as warden, a abdicated kingdom will be under the direct control of the council. All serfs/counts in the kingdom shall be managed as independent vassals, but they may not claim new areas of the kingdom that have not been previously and clearly designated to be theirs, until a Warden is
chosen.


By independent do you mean under the Council?

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PostPosted: August 14th, 2015, 6:43 pm 
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yes, ill change that

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PostPosted: August 16th, 2015, 12:20 am 
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This is a well detailed law. Excellent work! I think you just about hit every important point. Perhaps adding in something about how every king/kingdom is still considered "divine" (I believe that's the word we use for it) even in absence of the King. In other words, once a king always a king. Other than that, this is fantastic.

I place my vote in favor of this bill.

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PostPosted: August 16th, 2015, 12:25 am 
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These laws have received 60% approval from the council, and therefore pass. They take effect immediately.

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