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PostPosted: July 21st, 2016, 9:40 pm 
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III. Divisions of Powers

The Council of the Crowned, Tabling and Ratifying Law

Only the Council of the Crowned can pass international laws. Any de jure (official) Crowned Kings, recognized as sitting members of The Council of the Crowned, can present any law to the Council of the Crowned for debate and ratification. Bills passed by the House of Dukes can be introduced to the Council of the Crowned, and if they do a vote from all active Council members is mandatory. A law is passed if the Council members, de jure (official) Kings, vote with a simple majority (50%+1). Bills not passed by the House of Dukes can be passed If the Council members, de jure (official) Kings, vote with a clear majority (60%).

Constitutional Amendment

If the Council aims to amend the constitution, which includes the sections outlined herein, as well as the Carta of Rights and Freedoms, it needs to receive support from Council members, de jure (official) Kings, with clear majority (66%), as well as a simple majority (50%+1) from members of the House of Dukes, de jure (official) Dukes. This does not extend to criminal, international, diplomatic or any other laws passed outside the scope of this constitution.

The House of Dukes, Tabling and Vetoing Law

The House of Dukes cannot pass international law, nor can they pass law that is mandatory across other duchies. The House of Dukes can pass bills that can be presented to the Council of the Crowned, must mandatorily be voted on and debated if they are. The House of Dukes can veto any and every law passed by the Council of the Crowned that was not presented by the House of Dukes, provided they receive 66% votes of the total number of voting seats in the House of Dukes before the legislation has been passed, or no more than three years after it has been passed.

If a veto is successful, the proposed amendment or addition to legislation can be resubmitted to Parliament. If it is resubmitted, one of the following parameters apply:

(a) If the original contents of the proposal remain unaltered, it must receive 60% + 1 votes from the Council of the Crowned before it is approved and incorporated into legislation. If the proposal remains unaltered it cannot be vetoed again, or

(b) If the proposals content or intent is amended it can be vetoed again by the House of Dukes and must receive:

i. 60% or more votes from the Council of the Crowned, or

ii. 50% of votes from the Council of the Crowned in conjunction
with the passing of a Bill by the House of Dukes.

Laws and rights exclusive to Kings, or the Highest Authority in a given land

De jure (official) Crowned Kings, recognized as sitting members of The Council of the Crowned, or the highest legal authority in a given land, are explicitly and legally permitted to pass laws related to domestic transportation infrastructure, major military holdings, major ports, and diplomatic offices, meaning they could legally ask a vassal to make room for strategic holdings of infrastructure if needed, provided said plans do not require unnecessary, unwarranted and grossly unfair destruction of vassal property.

Laws and rights exclusive to legal holder of a particular noble title, regardless of which title

Only de jure (official) Crowned Kings, recognized as sitting members of The Council of the Crowned, de jure (official) Dukes, recognized as sitting members of the House of Dukes, and de jure Counts as recognized by their liege are considered noble title holders. Every noble title holder is entitled to sovereign right to autonomous buildings, which means a liege cannot take away or destroy a vassal holding without due process. In the case of breaches in these rights, a judge and/or jury decides the definition of due process on a case-by-case basis. The destruction of any sovereign lands gives the victim the immediate rights to taking the case before a Imperial Criminal Court. If either party are unsatisfied with the determinations in the Imperial Criminal Court, either can appeal the case before the Council of the Crowned. Due process includes cases such as, but not limited to, when the holdings are linked to excessive crimes that their liege has caught their vassal committing, a new King comes to power and receives the mandate from his people and vassals to undergo significant Kingdom-wide reforms, if the holdings are impeding absolutely necessary infrastructural projects, or if there is an exchange of land or borders in the case of treaties of war or international diplomacy that cut across specific holdings.

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PostPosted: July 21st, 2016, 10:27 pm 
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In the earlier Modernization of the Historical Constitution thread, I offered a modified version of this section of the Indoles Carta. No substantive changes have been made, only mild reworking of language to make it clearer and more accessible.

III. Divisions of Powers

The Council of the Crowned, Tabling and Ratifying Law

Only the Council of the Crowned can pass international laws. Any sitting member of The Council of the Crowned can present any law to the Council of the Crowned for debate and ratification, which shall be ratified with a clear majority vote (60%) from active sitting members of the Council of the Crowned. Bills passed by the House of Dukes must be introduced to the Council of the Crowned, whereupon a vote from all active Council members on the presented bill is required and shall be ratified with a simple majority (50%) from active sitting members of the Council of the Crowned.

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Slight rewording to make language clearer and more accessible; no substantive changes.


Constitutional Amendment

If the Council aims to amend the constitution, which includes the sections outlined herein, as well as the Carta of Rights and Freedoms, it must receive support from both a clear majority (66%) of active sitting members of the Council of the Crowned and a simple majority (50%) from active sitting members of the House of Dukes. This does not extend to criminal, international, diplomatic or any other laws passed outside the scope of this constitution.

The House of Dukes, Tabling and Vetoing Law

The House of Dukes cannot pass international law, nor can they pass law that is mandatory across other realms. The House of Dukes can pass bills that must be presented to the Council of the Crowned and must be debated and voted upon if they are. The House of Dukes can veto any and every law passed by the Council of the Crowned that was not presented by the House of Dukes, provided they receive 66% votes of the total number of voting seats in the House of Dukes before the legislation has been passed, or no more than three years after it has been passed.

If a veto is successful, the proposed bill can be resubmitted to Parliament. If resubmitted, one of the following parameters may apply:

(a) If the original contents of the proposal remain unaltered, it must receive 60% + 1 votes from the Council of the Crowned before it is approved and incorporated into legislation. If the proposal remains unaltered it cannot be vetoed again, or

(b) If the proposals content or intent is altered or amended it may be again subject to veto by the House of Dukes and, to pass, must receive (as per standard legislative requirements):

i. 60% or more votes from the Council of the Crowned, or

ii. 50% of votes from the Council of the Crowned in conjunction
with the passing of a Bill by the House of Dukes.

Laws and rights exclusive to the Highest Authority in a given land

The highest legal authority in a given land shall be explicitly and legally permitted to pass laws domestic in scope related to matters including but not limited to domestic transportation and infrastructure, major military holdings, major ports, and diplomatic offices. Vassals residing under an established realm may legally be asked to make room for strategic holdings if needed, provided said plans do not require unnecessary, unwarranted and grossly unfair destruction of vassal property.

Laws and rights exclusive to legal holder of a particular noble title, regardless of which title


Only sitting members of The Council of the Crowned, sitting members of the House of Dukes, and Counts as recognized by their liege are considered noble title holders. Every noble title holder is entitled to sovereign right to autonomous buildings. The ensures that a liege cannot take away or destroy a vassal holding without due process. In the case of breaches in these rights, a judge and/or jury decides the definition of due process on a case-by-case basis. The destruction of any sovereign lands gives the victim the immediate rights to taking the case before the Imperial Criminal Court. If either party are unsatisfied with the determinations in the Imperial Criminal Court, either can appeal the case before the Council of the Crowned. Due process includes cases such as, but not limited to, when the holdings are linked to excessive crimes that their liege has caught their vassal committing, a new King comes to power and receives the mandate from his people and vassals to undergo significant Kingdom-wide reforms, if the holdings are impeding absolutely necessary infrastructural projects, or if there is an exchange of land or borders in the case of treaties of war or international diplomacy that cut across specific holdings.

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PostPosted: July 22nd, 2016, 2:14 pm 
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Agreed again with Nicholas' rewrite. Good work.

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PostPosted: July 26th, 2016, 10:32 pm 
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Agreed fully.


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PostPosted: July 29th, 2016, 1:59 am 
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Awesome job! Agreed here as well!

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