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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 5:52 pm 
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As well as 429th year of the emperor?

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 6:18 pm 
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yep, as they are 2 separate timekeeping systems

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 6:35 pm 
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Gotcha!

Ah, it's good to know when I am! >.>

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 7:13 pm 
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Erh.. ok, so you say we'd be in Phoenix 01|01, but Phoenix should be the seventh era (06 since the first one was 00.)

Did it restart because it is the Phoenix era, as in a rebirth? If yes, shouldn't it be 00 like the first era? Or should it actually be 06, meaning we're in 01|06?



EDIT: Here's a copy paste of the era vs real time

Minecraft years passed --- Thoannum --- Era equivalents --- Real world equivalent
0 --- 00 --- 1st Era --- June 2010 to May 2011
72 --- 01 --- 2nd Era --- June 2011 to May 2012
144 --- 02 --- 3rd Era --- June 2012 to May 2013
216 --- 03 --- 4rd Era? --- June 2013 to May 2014

So to continue this same system, we'd have:
288 --- 04 --- 5th Era --- June 2013 to May 2014
360 --- 05 --- 6th Era --- June 2014 to May 2015
432 --- 06 --- 7th Era --- June 2015 to May 2016

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 8:08 pm 
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Eras aren't what that first number is, that's pretty much a full year having passed. So Phoenix is just the Era name, basically the Era of the owl got all the way to Owl 03|11

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 8:31 pm 
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Ok, so the system described in this link isn't accurate then...

I'll... I'll just go sit quietly and wait until a decision is reached. ô.ô Am confused.


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Gghhhh... I can't sit quiet. I CAN'T!

The link refers to the cycle of the owl, while the eras are indeed 1 real life year periods, or 72 Minecraft years. Did we just mingle terminology (eras and cycles)?

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 9:21 pm 
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If I recall correct, a cycle is an unnamed period of time. An era is every real life year so you can have several eras in one cycle. So in that example Owl 03|11 means the Cycle of the owl, 3rd era, 11th mercannum, whereas the cycle of the moon and snake only had 1 era as they lasted less than a year. I think.

So we've started the cycle of the Phoenix, so it'd be Phoenix 00|01 as it's the first mercannum of the first era. Yeah?

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 9:38 pm 
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If I recall correct, a cycle is an unnamed period of time.

ok

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An era is every real life year

thas what it says, yes.

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so you can have several eras in one cycle.

everything works so far.

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So in that example Owl 03|11 means the Cycle of the owl, 3rd era, 11th mercannum, whereas the cycle of the moon and snake only had 1 era as they lasted less than a year.

Yes.

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I think.

Thas what I read too.

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So we've started the cycle of the Phoenix, so it'd be Phoenix 00|01 as it's the first mercannum of the first era. Yeah?

Wait wha? So what happens to the previous 6 eras?


The way I am understanding all this, according to that link, is hat eras (1 RL year periods) are constant and independent from the cycles (animal/creatures names like owl, dragon and phoenix.)

Just like we didn't restart at year 0 when say, the Renaissance started?

So we'd be the 429th year of the emperor, 2nd mercannum of the 7th era (02|06) in the cycle of the Phoenix (which happens to coincide, I think, with the beginning of the era in this case.)


Either that or I'm thick as a boot, haha

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 9:48 pm 
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To the best of my knowledge, Felandris is correct. Cycles are longer blocks of time that have no designated length; they correspond to political changes and the like. So the cycle of the Dragon began when New Hermertia was founded, and the Cycle of the Phoenix began after the Regent's departure, regardless of the various years.

A mercannum is exactly one real-life month, which corresponds to 6 years in-game. An Era is 12 mercannums, which corresponds to one real-life year and 72 years in-game. All eras begin in July, as recorded history originally began then. Eras begin again from 0 whenever a new cycle starts.

So as far as I know, the current date is Phoenix 00 | 01, as, like Felandris says, it is the first mercannum of the first Era of the Cycle of the Dragon. The downtime when teh site was down is, to my knowledge, being treated as a time when records were wiped out; this explains the lack of timekeeping during this period.

Edit: wrote this before I saw your most recent post Biakko, hopefully this makes sense. Either that, of I'm the one that's thick as a boot, which could well be.

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PostPosted: July 24th, 2015, 10:17 pm 
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So you're saying that we're still in the cycle of the dragon, so if Phoenix isn't a cycle, what is it?

In the form ## | ##, is it correct to say that the first number is the mercannum (June = 00, July = 01, etc.) and the second number is the era?

If an era corresponds to a RL year, or 12 mercannums, I just don't understand why a new cycle (or whatever Phoenix is) resets it to 00 as cycles aren't set periods of time but correspond to major events.

Unless we're talking about an exception, given the wiped out of records and the symbol of a Phoenix as a rebirth. If find it confusing since eras, being set periods of time, are easy to track and that now would be the 7th era.

Please tell me to shut up, I feel like I'm just rambling... o.o

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