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PostPosted: June 15th, 2017, 5:51 pm 
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The Lower Council would reduce the vote to 50% with the passing of a Bill. The "Ducal Bill Loophole" is still a thing, but only in the case that there are only 5 dukes on the High Council and no Kings, which I think would happen very rarely at the most.

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PostPosted: June 15th, 2017, 5:55 pm 
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We'll be sure to make sure that some more of the community sees this and then we can vote on it and ratify it within the Indoles Carta.

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PostPosted: June 15th, 2017, 6:03 pm 
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Just had a thought actually. If a duke is promoted to King, do they get upgraded to two votes immediately or do they have to wait for the next election cycle?

Im in favor of making them wait for the next election cycle because if someone were to gain extra voting privileges in the middle of voting on a Law, it could change the outcome or just confuse the process in general.

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PostPosted: June 15th, 2017, 11:18 pm 
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Looks like a good setup to me! I think new kings should get their increased voting weight right away, otherwise they might be waiting up to six months before they actually see any benefit from their ascension.

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PostPosted: June 16th, 2017, 1:46 am 
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I would say immediate votes too. Would it effect things that much?

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PostPosted: June 16th, 2017, 3:21 am 
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I'd be ok with the instant vote power increase.

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PostPosted: June 16th, 2017, 8:09 am 
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After a little more thinking and discussion, I too would be in favor of immediately allowing new Kings their vote. The time of the voting for the law can dictate that, and since the time of the voting would dictate the amount of votes a Duke -> King would have, I don't believe that this law needs to define this specifically.

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PostPosted: June 19th, 2017, 12:09 am 
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Slightly revised language regarding new Dukes, time to vote, and other possible language changes in the Carta and Acts.

Voting System Restructure Act

The "Council of the Crowned" and "House of Dukes" will be replaced by "High Council" and "Low Council" respectively. These new Councils will assume all of the same legal roles, voting powers, responsibilities, and rights as their predecessors.

The new "High Council" will be made up of a minimum of 5 active Duke(s) and or King(s). When the number of active Duke(s) and or King(s) surpasses 11, 50% of active Duke(s) and or King(s) will be eligible to ascend to the "High Council". In the event that there are an odd number of eligible members, the number of positions available on the "High Council" will be rounded down. Kings will be allowed two(2) votes each on their respective council. Dukes will be allowed one(1) vote on their respective council. Any new Dukes will enter the "Low Council" upon ascension.

An election for the "High Council" will take place every three months at the beginning of each quarter year. Every member of Hermertia will be allowed one(1) single vote. The highest scoring participants will be ascended to the "High Council". In the event that the minimum number of "High Council" members are not voted in; the vote will be restarted discluding the members who were already voted for ascension. Each voting period will last one(1) week starting at the beginning of the month every quarter year. Every Duke and or King that does not ascend to the "High Council" will be placed on the "Low Council".


Eligibility for the High Council

    1. Must be a Duke or King by the beginning of the election.
    2. Must be active at least one week before voting begins.

Language changes in the Indoles Carta and its Acts

    1. All instances of "Council of the Crowned" will be changed to "High Council".
    2. All instances of "House of Dukes" will be changed to "Low Council".
    3. All instances of "Ducal Bill" will be changed to "Lower Council Bill".
    4. Any superfluous language regarding the new council system will be changed accordingly.

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PostPosted: June 19th, 2017, 2:48 am 
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I like the language and concept behind this. I am still a little confused on how voting on bills and such would work with these two councils. Would you be able to give an example based on the minimum number of members in the high council? Also, is there a cap on how many members can be elected to the high council?

Also, is it similar to the Low Council? I am guessing that the Low Council would be similar to the Dukes (i.e. voting to lower the percentage of High Council votes required to pass something)?

Sorry just want to clarify so I am sure on what I am voting on.

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PostPosted: June 19th, 2017, 2:55 am 
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Sounds good to me. A culmination of our efforts to modernise.

If anyone wants to have anything explained then now is the time to ask, or to add anything!

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