Under our current voting system, a normal legislative bill requires 60% of the Kings, or 50% of the Kings and a passed House of Dukes bill to pass Parliament.

There are situations where the House of Dukes is rendered useless with this voting setup.

In the case of 3 or 5 "active" Kings, the threshold for passing a bill is the same with or without the House of Dukes - The same number of Kings are needed.

I talked with a few of the other Dukes today, and we came to an agreement that this loophole should be fixed.

Where appropriate, we'd like to rephrase the legislation to say that a successfully passed bill by the House of Dukes lowers the requirement of King votes needed by one.

This would actually make the Dukes less powerful with any number of active Kings of 12 and over, but I doubt that would happen ever - ebbs and flows kind of thing.

However, we wouldn't run into the issue we have with 3 or 5 Kings - where the house of Dukes is useless.

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Ealdorman Cerdic Beoden Accynnafon of Östlond
Runner Up of the Glas Claddach Boat Building Competition
Minister of Justice

This would also give the Dukes some power to break stalemates in the Council. Sounds like a good idea.

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Ulrik Gunnarson
Duke of the Gathered Races of Hermertia Homeland (GRHH)
The Chairman of the GRHH Co.

Initially sceptical after reading first few lines. But after reading full thing this is a good idea.

We had this idea a while back, as one way of making the dukes more relevant, It's come to this change now?

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Petra Ravnikaar of The Veil

I believe this would be a step in the right direction, given our current situation.

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King Tiber Elenvar, third of his name.
Lord of New Isilioth
Lord of Elenya
Blood of the Ancient Kingdom of Isilioth
Grandmaster of the Drachenfeuer Order.

What do you mean?

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Ealdorman Cerdic Beoden Accynnafon of Östlond
Runner Up of the Glas Claddach Boat Building Competition
Minister of Justice

I fully support this change. It really is long overdue.

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Lord Siden Rua of Fichina
House of Rua
Imperial Minister of Surveyors and Civil Engineers

Proposed language:

Tide 00|08 Legislative Bill Voting Threshold Change

This bill will make amendments to multiple documents of the Imperial Codex, including the Indoles Carta, and will therefore be an amendment to the Indoles Carta. It requires 60% of support from the Council of the Crowned in addition to support of the House of Dukes.

A successfully passed bill from the House of Dukes will reduce the number of King votes needed by 1 (one) in situations where votes from 60% of the Council of the Crowned are needed.

A successfully passed bill from the House of Dukes is by definition a bill that has received a simple majority (>50%) of active, voting members of the House of Dukes.

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Ealdorman Cerdic Beoden Accynnafon of Östlond
Runner Up of the Glas Claddach Boat Building Competition
Minister of Justice

Is the language in green part of the new change as well?

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Scrios V
King of Perth, Brother of Valyria

No that's just describing what support this bill would need. Changes to the Carta itself have to have more support - ducal bill doesn't decease the king support needed for passing amendments to the Carta.

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Ealdorman Cerdic Beoden Accynnafon of Östlond
Runner Up of the Glas Claddach Boat Building Competition
Minister of Justice

I support this change/the new language entirely.

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Hasan 'Darius V' Stark

Protector of the Vahnic Exploration Company
Ilkhan of Greater Karastan-Laghima