All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
  Offline
PostPosted: January 3rd, 2017, 5:23 pm 
User avatar
Duke

Joined: May 30th, 2015, 6:01 pm
Posts: 1336
Location: Michigan, USA
How it works in game: diamonds are used to create high quality tools and armor. They are also used to create enchanting tables and jukeboxes. This is not the best match for how diamonds work in the real world, but it is still possible to merge the two somehow.

How it has been used in lore up until now: while diamond tools and armor have been mentioned in lore, there has been little if any mention of the exact details of those items. This gives us a lot of wiggle room to mesh new lore with current lore.

Proposals:
1. Diamonds work similarly to the real world:
Diamonds are used to improve tools and armor by improving the cutting edge for swords, axes, and shovels and improve the durability of armor after being forged into it (i.e. diamonds embedded in plate armor). Diamonds are merely used as an accent for enchanting tables and are not a necessary component from a lore perspective. Diamonds are used for the tip of the needle in jukeboxes.

2. Diamonds work entirely differently than they do in the real world:
Diamonds do not share many of their real world traits. Diamonds are a gem that can be crushed into a fine powder and infused into metallurgical processes to increase the durability of said forged items. Diamonds are merely used as an accent for enchanting tables and are not a necessary component from a lore perspective. Powderized diamonds are used to forge the fine tip of the needle used in jukeboxes.

These are just some initial ideas. Share your thoughts below.

_________________
Guardian of Casadia
Master of the Slayers Guild
Minister of Hermertian History


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
  Offline
PostPosted: January 3rd, 2017, 6:09 pm 
User avatar

Joined: April 28th, 2016, 6:15 pm
Posts: 2001
Location: California
I personally like something along #2 - that perhaps what we call diamonds are actually something else entirely (more like mithril? idk) or indeed have vastly different properties.

_________________
Ealdorman Cerdic Beoden Accynnafon of Östlond
Runner Up of the Glas Claddach Boat Building Competition
Minister of Justice


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
  Offline
PostPosted: January 3rd, 2017, 7:30 pm 
User avatar
King

Joined: May 30th, 2015, 10:17 am
Posts: 3862
Location: Stirling - Scotland
An interesting discussion. Could be multiple types of gem stones or precious metal that are dug up ? Diamonds could be a part of it all.

_________________
Petra Ravnikaar of The Veil


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
  Offline
PostPosted: January 3rd, 2017, 7:43 pm 
User avatar
Duke

Joined: August 9th, 2015, 12:19 am
Posts: 388
Location: United Kingdom
I like the idea that the singular item diamond could in fact refer to multiple different materials, such as Mithril, Sapphire, Ruby, etc. This gives us a lot more flexibility in our lore.

_________________
Prince Septimus Cersil, Lord of Wychwood
Minister of Surveyors and Civil Engineers
Warden of the North
- Recipient of the Pyrencian Good Effort Award
- 2016 Winner of the 'Medal of S'alright'
- Stronger than an ant
- The Tallest


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
  Offline
PostPosted: January 3rd, 2017, 7:50 pm 
User avatar
Count

Joined: October 30th, 2016, 9:08 pm
Posts: 58
Location: United Kingdom
I agree with the idea of it being separate items, and that diamond is just the group label. For example, the diamonds we use for our tools and armour could be mithril, the diamonds we use for enchanting could be some magical stone such as Aetherium or something like that, gives much more flexibility like Septimus said.

_________________
Grand Admiral Arthur Raymond of the County of Erikos
Minister of Hermertian Culture
Protector of the Navy, Protector of the Thalassocracy.
Master of Trade in the Katoraktonion Sea.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
  Offline
PostPosted: January 3rd, 2017, 7:55 pm 
User avatar
Duke

Joined: May 30th, 2015, 6:01 pm
Posts: 1336
Location: Michigan, USA
I like the association of diamonds and mithril. Diamonds in-game could be the equivalent of a chunk of mithril ore in lore. I do worry about making diamonds the overall label for multiple different minerals, as this could easily get confusing.

_________________
Guardian of Casadia
Master of the Slayers Guild
Minister of Hermertian History


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
  Offline
PostPosted: January 3rd, 2017, 8:26 pm 
User avatar
King

Joined: May 30th, 2015, 10:17 am
Posts: 3862
Location: Stirling - Scotland
It would be far more fantastical to have diamonds for all master crafted tools and items, iron isn't the only ore in the world either. Of course we could have specific special ores for things, represented by diamond or whatever type of armour.

_________________
Petra Ravnikaar of The Veil


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
  Offline
PostPosted: January 3rd, 2017, 8:30 pm 
User avatar

Joined: April 28th, 2016, 6:15 pm
Posts: 2001
Location: California
I like the idea of diamonds representing various top tier ores.

_________________
Ealdorman Cerdic Beoden Accynnafon of Östlond
Runner Up of the Glas Claddach Boat Building Competition
Minister of Justice


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
  Offline
PostPosted: January 4th, 2017, 2:05 am 
User avatar
Duke

Joined: June 1st, 2015, 12:47 am
Posts: 725
We could also consider diamond to be a strong metal (like mithril or titanium) in it of itself. It could be especially tough, flexible, and light compared to iron, while also having important enchantment conducting properties. This would explain their use in a broad variety of contexts, from jukeboxes to tools to armor. Different cultures could also refer to diamond by different names, such as mithril.

_________________
Ulrik Gunnarson
Duke of the Gathered Races of Hermertia Homeland (GRHH)
The Chairman of the GRHH Co.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
  Offline
PostPosted: January 4th, 2017, 9:23 pm 
User avatar
Duke

Joined: May 30th, 2015, 6:01 pm
Posts: 1336
Location: Michigan, USA
It seems that most participants are in favor of saying that diamond tools and armor in-game are forged out of mithril in lore (diamonds in-game then being the equivalent of a chunk of mithril ore). Is there anyone opposed to the lore-ification of diamonds in this manner?

_________________
Guardian of Casadia
Master of the Slayers Guild
Minister of Hermertian History


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Imperium - Modified by Rey phpbbmodrey