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Author:  The Regent [ August 4th, 2016, 4:34 am ]
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That's, well. Strange. That's just my opinion. It seems like there was very little engagement or input or reflection or judgement from the community with the way the current laws work. I hope the model doesn't continue like that. Maybe it was just the first time, maybe people will set up a proper campaign after the death of this self appointed emperor.
Author:  Cerdic Accynnafon [ August 4th, 2016, 4:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor Elections
It was their choice.

This was talked about extensively withing the community for weeks. The nomination process was voted on and even suggested by King Scrios.

If this continues, it's only the fault of the kings not to nominate themselves.

Campaigns are against the spirit of this law and the wishes of most of the community.
Author:  Sodihv Thalion [ August 4th, 2016, 4:56 am ]
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Its for the sake of ease. He didn't appoint himself, no one else opposed him and the idea behind the new laws was that no one who didn't want to be elected emperor would be elected against their will.
Author:  Petra Ravnikaar [ August 4th, 2016, 5:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor Elections
The Regent wrote:
That's, well. Strange. That's just my opinion. It seems like there was very little engagement or input or reflection or judgement from the community with the way the current laws work. I hope the model doesn't continue like that. Maybe it was just the first time, maybe people will set up a proper campaign after the death of this self appointed emperor.



We've had a lot of discussion about this recently, although it does look a bit off on this thread, it's certainly been given every chance to have competition. Kyn and Scrios dont want to be Emperor yet, and Arjen was poked repeatedly by Siden in real life to post and has just not posted on this so Myron has won.

Congratulations!
Author:  Joren [ August 4th, 2016, 5:20 am ]
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I would have run, but my computer died last week and I won't be able to even get on for the election til I get it fixed. I figured it would be more fair for the community to have me not run this time around :/
Author:  Cerdic Accynnafon [ August 4th, 2016, 5:21 am ]
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It is my honor to officially announce King Myron of the Kingdom of Pyrencia as the first elected Emperor of the Mercurian Empire!

Congratulations to Emperor Myron!
Author:  Petra Ravnikaar [ August 4th, 2016, 5:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor Elections
oh damn. Arjen that's such a shame. it's ok pyrencians don't live very long. you can throw your name In the hat soon again
Author:  King Erastil [ August 4th, 2016, 5:26 am ]
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stop planning for my death
Author:  Wysterian Labourer's Council [ August 4th, 2016, 5:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor Elections
As someone who thought extensively about this issue, debated how to integrate the Emperor and our traditions with legal evolutions, and who drafted a great deal of the law as it stands, I firmly believe we have through deep community reflection forged a good new role for the Emperor. With that in mind, I wish this first, historic election would have gone differently.

I really wanted to see an election with multiple contenders. But when it came down to it, this nomination process was open for over a week as per the law. The topic was brought up to multiple Kings multiple times, and multiple Kings made definite choices not to run for one reason or another.

It's not the way I wanted it to go. But with only one King wanting to stand for Emperor, it is the way it turned out. It's fully fair, if perhaps not the most satisfying.

I predict future elections shall see more contenders. This shall be a long process, and a great thing for our community.
Author:  The Regent [ August 4th, 2016, 5:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Emperor Elections
First, I think a week is too short. Look at arjen's case. And this is a symbolic thing, and should be treated with respect. This was was learning experience and I think there are possible tweak for the future.

And, I'm sorry, and I mean no offence here, but the first elected emperor is likely someone who will make a joke or mockery of the position. Is this a possibility Myron? Or will you take your ceremonial role professionally, and save the antics for times when you are not doing your duty?

I would have liked to see a competition between Myron and Arjen. I also prefered the old law where non-kings could be elected too. Perhaps I will wait and see a few cycles, and then campaign for reforms to this system later. I feel it's far from perfect, or even a perfect reflection of what the content community was looking for in terms out intended outcomes. I am free to share my opinions here, and differences in opinions is important, but still. The laws as they are did not result in a healthy or even reasonably lengthy discussion.

With newcomers arriving, it's a perfect time for the Emperor to be calm, respectful and dignified. I can't help but feel we 'elected' (as in, not) a person who might not always represent this when at ceremonial events. Although, Myron, I could be fully wrong in which case, grand! My that reign be remembered positively.
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